Monitoring the Tomcat 5.5 inside JBoss 4.0.x

Hi,

I'm having trouble monitoring the Tomcat that lives inside JBoss.

Most likely related to the Tomcat "manager" webapp, which I can't seem to get to work properly - is the Tomcat inside JBoss somewhat crippled?

I've tried lots of things, including the AppManager troubleshooting tips (they seem to be for Tomcat+JBoss 3.x only?), running the JBoss "all" server config, reading the Apache Tomcat Config Reference and applying its manager related examples, but to no avail - I don't get this darn /manager thingie to work.
All other monitors on that machine (Linux, JBoss, JRE, Apache) are doing okay BTW.

Workaround for now: I mapped Tomcat's "status" servlet to /manager/status - this way I'm getting at least some values and am able to change settings of the Tomcat monitor (e.g. name, polling interval) in ApplicationsManager (which won't work if the /manager/ location isn't available at all)

But since the URLs queried by AppManager

/manager/status?XML=true
/manager/jmxproxy?qry=*%3Aj2eeType%3DServlet%2C*
/manager/html/list

won't yield any useful output (output is always the same HTML page as the /status servlet outputs) the Tomcat monitor in AppManager is missing some stuff.

So, if anyone has any info, if and how I can get the Tomcat monitoring to work properly - please share! :)